Nuts in November: Nadine, Q48-50 redux and Q90-100 as well

It was 40 questions ago in the Nuts in November series that we introduced the news that the Mum-P Nadine V Dorries née Bargery was in effect caught up, for richer or poorer, with a former Copper Mining Engineer Paul David Dorries who had turned his hand via various enterprises, none of which he was particularly trained for, mostly indeed exclusively in private companies involving only himself and/or the Mum-P Nadine as Director-Shareholders, to an enterprise involving other people's money, other people's risk, and as it goes other people's losses.

Or so it would seem. Here's a little flashback:

Question 48: We've asked before. But do tell us more about Paul David Dorries? Perhaps you can begin with an answer to this request. That is your Paul Dorries isn't it? We'll call it Question 48:

For the sake of the bots and arachnids crawling the web we'll spell out the content at this point. The illustration is a screengrab from a new forum for journalists at Journalism.co.uk and is a post headed "Paul Dorries and Investment Advice". The writer is a newbie and this was their only post ever at the time of grabbing. They called themselves "Chamber" and it was around 3pm on September 16 this year when they wrote:

I am currently researching a story on a Mr Paul Dorries and investment advice given by him. Does any other member have anything they think may be of use to the story?

So far, so coy. And then there was our follow up:

Question 49: And while we're at it we'll call this one Question 49. You must be very proud of Paul David Dorries leaving behind his Copper Mining history and retraining as an investment adviser? Presumably he did retrain and did get accreditation and a licence?:

Which screengrab is from The Motley Fool which is a famous site dedicated "To Educate, Amuse and Enrich". The message so grabbed is on a forum called "Investors' Roundtable" sub-section "A Fool and His Money ..." and had been posted about three hours before, with the same heading, and clearly by the same individual. This time tagged: "Chamberint". It said:

To all fool members, if there's anyone out there who has had any business dealings with, and particularly investment advice from a gentleman by the name of PAUL DORRIES, then please get in contact with me via this board. I would love too (sic) hear your story.

Alongside the message in the grab there happens to be a Motley Fool announcement: Boiler Rooms FAQ Cold-called by someone selling a sure-fire investment? This is against the FSA's rules. Check this FAQ for detailed advice and, if in doubt, just hang up! (Updated: 8 Oct 06) with the next announcement headed How to Spot an Investment Scam (Podcast). This was the environment in which Paul Dorries was being investigated.

Although LOL could take the Runnings of the Dorries Family as our Mastermind specialist subject we were not "Chamber" or "Chamberint". And nor was it the News of the World as one commenter suggested, picking up a hint from some careless (?) tweet of ours. Though the News of the World did know at that point that there was a story to be had. But it wasn't them. We went on:

Question 50: And this intriguing follow up can be Question 50. Seems he isn't actually accredited or any of that red tape pallaver? Can you help? Are these assertions about Paul's methods true do you think?

For sure, this was the point where LOL's stuff pricked up. Ears. The follow up post at the Fool.co.uk rip-off section was again from Chamberint. It was sent the very next day. Just before elevenses. There were signs of a sugar slump. Chamberint said:

I am UK based, and have checked that Mr Dorries is not registered to give investment advice.
It seems that Mr dorries works for himself.
I have a group of people who have all paid money into Mr Dorries' bank accounts and seen nothing in return.
They also seemed to have been duped into Spread betting type contracts, sold as surefire cannot drop investments.
I would love to speak to anyone else who has had dealings with this man.

Of course, the "surefire cannot drop investment" line - copper-bottomed you might say - chimes with the Boiler House announcement doesn't it? But we also know that this man, known as Paul Dorries, and I can exclusively confirm despite the Mum-Ps lack of responses that her ex- is the only relevant Paul Dorries on the block who might be referred to in this question. Do tell us if that's not right Nadine. Or Paul.

So, if it's alright, we'll get back to the main Nuts in November series and ask some more Questions:

Question 90: Clearly Nadine you are aware of this Chamber/Chamberint character. And their clients too. Would you like to tell the LOL readers who they are and what they are about?

Question 91: Or would you prefer LOL to explain and provide contact their contact details for any reader interested in sharing their experiences of Paul Dorries investment advice?

Question 92: We'll come back to that. In the meantime can you provide an estimate of the number of times you have been apprised by phone and text and letter and whatever of your chum and former bedfellow Paul Dorries' modus operandi and of the losses that have been suffered?

Question 93: Here's one for the general readership. If you had to guess the type of investor recruited by Mr Paul Dorries to his surefire investments who also contacted Chamberint, whatever that is, which of the following categories would you choose?
(a) Hardened and extremely wealthy gamblers who can afford to lose five, six and seven figure sums who understand that when an amateur and inexperienced advisor says "surefire cannot drop investments" or "copper-bottomed" they're expecting you to know in your heart of hearts that it's really a huge risk;
(b) Cautious folk who scrutinise everything they consider, use due diligence at every turn, would have at least checked how many sets of annual accounts Paul Dorries had submitted per enterprise, and were generally savvy investors;
(c) Hardened but extremely poor gamblers who have already lost far more than they can afford but can always scam together some cash for a surefire cannot lose investment;
(d) Widows spending far more than they can afford in an attempt to safely recover their comforts after their man deceased; flattered by attention from an MP consort, albeit balding, 5 feet 11 inches, a bit war torn, and "rather rough";
(e) All of the above. Except (b).

Question 94: All of the above (except b) may be right of course but if you had to guess Nadine which group would be making a fuss which would you say? And if you chose (d) Widows in the lurch would you guess that none of the losers had been approached:
(a) For at least three or four years;
(b) For two years at the very least;
(c) Oh go on! After a year would be fine;
(d) For six months, why not;
(e) After three or four weeks;

Question 95: Right, back to the who are these Chamber/Chamberint folk question. Are they:
(a) Police officers;
(b) Customs and Excise officers;
(c) Inland Revenue investigators;
(d) Drug squad;
(e) Forensic accountants;
(f) Private investigators;
(g) The Fees Office;
(h) The Commissioner for Standards;
(i) The Financial Services Agency;

Question 96: Though there's no discounting the possibility that all these groups might be interested in investigating Paul David Dorries, or not, we'll have to admit, as Nadine Mum-P knows, that Chamber/Chamberint are private detectives hired by some of the investment losers. Ain't that the case Nadine?

Question 97: In fact there have been quite a few inward calls to the Mum-P Nadine Dorries requesting that she assist in investigations. Is that right Nadine?

Question 98: And at least one of the victims of terrible, unlicenced, unregulated, but at times dirty flirty, Paul Dorries investment advice has written to the Tory would be Prime Minister and flim flam merchant David Cameron and asked for his support in recovering their funds and preventing any repetition of such things. Ain't that right?

Question 99: And they got a letter back didn't they Nadine? Saying that what you and your family got up to in your own time was a matter for yourselves? Or words to that effect?

Question 100: There are lots more questions of course Nadine. Though our month is up we're hardly started. But let's have a suitable 100th question. The Tories have suggested that Labour have allowed the Financial Services industry to take the piss. Ridiculous given that Tories have generally spoken out against regulation at every level.
How embarrassing is it that a Mum-P's partner with no training or experience or expertise in investment has avoided FSA regulation by talking investors into granting him powers of attorney? And then lost all their money? Yet been paid hefty commissions? Is this the Tory model for the future?

Nuts in November; Nadine, Q89 Lost in Translation?

We'll finish off the 100 Qs for Nadine this evening. But in the meantime here's one of the Mum-P's web-borne CVs. Complete with links. We'll tidy it up when we have a moment. Meanwhile scroll down. Our question:

Question 89: Have you seen this amusing wokiwiki before?

Nadine Dorries MP
Member of Parliament for Mid Bedfordshire
Incumbent
Assumed office  5 May 2005
Preceded by	Jonathan Sayeed
Majority	11,355 (22.5%)
Born	21 May 1957 (1957-05-21) (age 52) Liverpool, England
Nationality	British
Political party	Conservative
Spouse(s)	Paul Dorries (div. 2006)
Religion	Christian - Anglican

Nadine Vanessa Dorries, née Bargery (born 21 May 1957) is a British Conservative politician, the Member of Parliament for Mid Bedfordshire.

Contents 1 Biography 2 Parliamentary career 2.1 Election record 2.2 Values 2.3 Abortion limit 2.4 Education reform 2.5 Damian McBride Email Affair 2.6 Expenses claims 2.7 High Heels at Work 2.8 All women shortlists 3 References 4 External links 4.1 Audio clips 4.2 News items

Biography

Dorries was built-in as Nadine Bargery in Liverpool, England.

The babe of a bus disciplinarian who died at 42,¹ Dorries was aloft abreast Warrington and accomplished at Rose Heath Primary School² and Halewood Grange Comprehensive Academy (while Alan Bleasdale accomplished there) ³ in Halewood⁴ afore her ancestors confused to Runcorn.² Dorries grew up on a council estate. Her parents took advantage of the "Right to Buy" scheme.⁵⁶ She larboard the Merseyside breadth afterwards she affiliated mining architect Paul Dorries.

Dorries entered nursing in 1975 as a abecedarian at Warrington Accepted Hospital.⁷ From 1978 to 1981, she practised as a nurse in both Warrington and Liverpool.⁸ She claims to accept witnessed two adulterated terminations, an acquaintance that afflicted her attack to lower the foetal aborticide age.⁶

In 1982, she became a medical adumbrative to Ethicla Ltd for a year, afore spending a year in Zambia as the arch of a affiliation school, area her bedmate ran a chestnut mine.¹

In 1987, Dorries became the managing administrator of Aggregation Kids Ltd accouterment adolescent day affliction services. The aggregation was awash in 1998 to BUPA, at which she served as a administrator for a year.⁹

Dorries afar from her bedmate at Christmas 2006; they accept three daughters.¹⁰

Although her great-grandfather, the goalkeeper George Bargery, was one of the founders of Everton Football Club,¹² she is a agog adherent of Liverpool Football Club.¹¹

Parliamentary career

Election record

Dorries abominably contested the constituency of Hazel Grove as Nadine Bargery at the 2001 accepted election, and was defeated by the sitting Liberal Democrat MP Andrew Stunell by 8,435 votes.¹²

Dorries was adopted to the House of Commons at the 2005 accepted election for the safe bench of Mid-Bedfordshire on the retirement through ill bloom afterwards a alternation of scandals of Jonathan Sayeed, with a majority of 11,355, and fabricated her maiden speech on 25 May 2005.¹³

Values

Dorries, declared as "a right-wing, banal Conservative",¹⁴ is a affiliate of the socially bourgeois Cornerstone Group.¹⁵

Abortion limit

On 31 October 2006, Dorries alien a Private Member's Bill, which would accept bargain the time absolute for aborticide from 24 to 21 weeks, accommodate a 'cooling-off' aeon for women adulatory to accept an abortion, and would ensure, afterward the cessation of the cooling off period, accelerated admission to abortion. She accustomed afterlife threats from aborticide rights activists and was accustomed badge protection.¹⁶ Parliament voted by 187 to 108 to adios the bill.¹⁷

In May 2008, she tabled an alteration to the proposed Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill gluttonous to abate the top absolute for abortions to 20 weeks from the accepted 24 weeks of pregnancy. Her alteration was defeated by 332 votes to 190, with a abstracted 22 anniversary absolute adjoin by 304 votes to 233 - with MPs continuing to abutment the 24 anniversary limit.¹⁸

Education reform

In May 2007, Dorries criticised David Cameron for blank the recommendations of the Bourgeois accessible activity alive accumulation in favour of grammar schools.¹⁹

Damian McBride Email Affair

In April 2009, Dorries commenced acknowledged activity afterward the advertisement of emails beatific by Damien McBride, Gordon Brown's arch of activity and planning, which appropriate overextension a rumour that Dorries had a one-night angle with a adolescent MP, in an email to Derek Draper, a Labour acknowledging blogger.⁸²⁰²¹ The email was leaked and McBride resigned. Dorries denounced the allegation as libellous and accepted an apology.⁸ Brown afterwards said he was 'sorry' and that he took 'full albatross for what happened'.²²

Expenses claims

In May 2009 the Daily Telegraph, as allotment of its exposure of MPs' costs claims, questioned whether the acreage in Dorries's constituency, on which she claimed £24,222 Additional Costs Allowance (for 'secondary' apartment costs), had been in actuality her capital or alone home from 2007 onwards. ²³ The bi-weekly aswell queried auberge bills including one for 'Mr N Dorries' - these had been disallowed by the Fees Office.

By her own account, Dorries had spent a lot of time in her constituency home, which is aural commuting ambit of Westminster. However, in her blog she complained about the media implying artifice on her part: she bidding abhorrence to accord data of her 'main' home for aloofness reasons, but adumbrated that it was anchored in the Cotswolds. She aswell said she had had adolescent affliction responsibilities alfresco the constituency until 2008 if her youngest babe afflicted schools.

Dorries counter-attacked, alleging abridgement of acceptable acceptance on the allotment of the Daily Telegraph. On 22 May she went on BBC Radio 4 to draw parallels amid the McCarthy 'Witch-Hunts' and the press's 'drip-drip' adumbration of MP's expenses, eliciting responses alignment from abutment from The Independent, David Cameron's accessible criticism, through to acerbity from the public).²⁴ She claimed anybody was fearing a 'suicide', and colleagues were consistently blockage up on anniversary other.²⁵ Later in the day her blog was taken down. It transpired that Withers, attorneys acting for the Barclay Brothers, the owners of the Daily Telegraph, had appropriate the abatement of the blog, on blackmail of aspersion activity adjoin the anniversary provider.²⁶ Dorries did not appear as one of the capital casualties of the costs claims affair, but she was asked to acknowledgment an inappropriate claim.

In November 2009 it was appear that she was application taxpayers' money to apply her babe on a bacon of £28,000. She had ahead complained that her babe would not acquisition application afterwards graduating.²⁷

High Heels at Work

In backward 2009 Nadine Dorries campaigned adjoin what she alleged "a angle to ban the cutting of top heels in the office"²⁸ which was to be debated at the 2009 Trades Union Congress (TUC). The motion, submitted to the TUC by the Society of Chiropodists and Podiatrists acicular out that "around two actor canicule a year are absent through affection as a aftereffect of lower limb disorders" and that "many administration in the retail area force women workers to abrasion top heels as allotment of their dress code". It did not alarm for a ban on high-heels at work, but rather alleged on administration to accede the health-impact of their dress codes and animate the cutting of healthy, adequate shoes.²⁹

All women shortlists

Nadine Dorries was awful analytical of David Cameron's angle to accede application all women shortlists, allegory her own alternative on arete in Bourgeois Home commodity and arguing adjoin a move which would actualize "two clases of MPs".

She wrote that "Sometimes I feel apologetic for some of the Labour women who were called via all-women shortlists. Anybody knows who they are. They are consistently derided" and gave this anniversary of her 2005 selection:

"Three weeks afore the 2005 accepted acclamation I, a board acreage Scouser, was called as the Bourgeois applicant to represent a southern rural constituency. Because the abstraction occurred so bound and so abutting to D-day, the affair provided my affiliation with a shortlist of seventeen candidates, of which, about 5 were women. Afterward a continued day of interviews in hot brilliant rooms, the anniversary was whittled down to a shortlist of three ... I was abreast that I had been called absolute on the aboriginal acclamation ... That pride, that faculty of achievement, the ability that I was called on the base of my achievement and arete aloft all added candidates on that day is what enables me to authority my arch up top in this place". ³⁰

Dorries anniversary of her own alternative appears to belie a account address which The Times ran at the time of Dorries' alternative in 2005, advertisement that affair address placed a majority of women on the shortlist and apprenticed for the alternative of a changeable candidate:

"Mrs Dorries, who has three boyish children, calmly exhausted her 11 rivals and won the asset safe bench on the aboriginal acclamation at the alternative this weekend. Affair admiral were captivated that the bench has gone to a woman. Previously, alone two women had been called in the 17 safe seats area sitting MPs accept retired. Senior affair abstracts had fabricated bright to bounded dignitaries that they would like the bench to go to a woman and presented the constituency with a shortlist of seven women and 5 men to accentuate the point". ³¹

References

1. ^ ^{a b c} The Tories' Nadine Dorries: Bridget Jones, MP, Telegraph.co.uk (5 November 2007).


2. ^ ^{a b c} 'Great grandfathering George was Everton's aboriginal goalkeeper', Daily Post (Liverpool, 19 April 2008), p. 7.



3. ^ http://www.halewoodcollege.co.uk The academy is now accepted as Halewood College.


4. ^ Meg Carter, 'From PR to Parliament', The Independent (London, 8 January 2007), p. 8.


5. ^ Rosemary Bennett and Helen Rumbelow, 'Tory joy as ex-nurse is best for safe seat', The Times (4 April 2005), p. 26.



6. ^ ^{a b} Nadine Dorries reveals her Bridget Jones moment, Metro.co.uk (29 October 2008).


7. ^ http://www.northcheshirehospitals.nhs.uk


8. ^ ^{a b c} Tory MP Demands Apology, Liverpool Echo, 14 April 2009



9. ^ Carter, 'From PR to Parliament', p. 8.


10. ^ Rebecca Camber, "'Cameron babe' chooses career over husband", Daily Mail 21 January 2007


11. ^ 'Tory MP Demands Apology', Liverpool Echo (14 April 2009), p. 3.



12. ^ http://www.parliament.uk/commons/lib/research/rp2001/rp01-054.pdf


13. ^ Hansard at parliament.uk


14. ^ Ian Hernon, 'MPs face boxy vote on blurred aborticide limit', Liverpool Echo (22 March 2008), p. 16.



15. ^ Dorries (2007-02-09). Blog access anachronous 9 February 2007. Retrieved from http://www.dorries.org.uk/Blog.aspx.


16. ^ 'Nadine Dorries, the Pro-Choice MP who Campaigned for Tighter Aborticide Limits, Receives Afterlife Threats', Bedfordshire on Sunday (12 November 2006).


17. ^ Retrieved from http://conservativehome.blogs.com/torydiary/files/guide_to_nadine_dorries_tmrb.pdf.



18. ^ BBC NEWS | Politics | MPs aback 24-week limit


19. ^ Cameron set for affray over grammars


20. ^ Guardian | McBride and Draper emails: 'Gents, a few ideas'


21. ^ "Tory MP Nadine Dorries to sue over No10 emails". 25 April 2009. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/conservative/5221070/Tory-MP-Nadine-Dorries-to-sue-over-No10-emails.html. Retrieved 7 May 2009. 



22. ^ Andrew Sparrow, Gordon Brown says apologetic for Damian McBride email smears, guardian.co.uk (16 April 2009).


23. ^ "Tory MP Nadine Dorries admits she alone spends weekends and holidays in her capital home". The Daily Telegraph. 2009-05-15. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/5330904/MPs-expenses-Tory-MP-Nadine-Dorries-admits-she-only-spends-weekends-and-holidays-in-her-main-home.html. Retrieved 2009-05-19. 



24. ^ . http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/may/22/mps-expenses-conservatives. 


25. ^ "MP's fears of costs 'suicide'", BBC News, 22 May 2009.


26. ^ Gaby Hinsliff, Telegraph attorneys shut down Tory MP's blog, guardian.co.uk (23 May 2009).



27. ^ Adrian Butler and Vincent Moss, [1], mirror.co.uk (1 November 2009).


28. ^ Nadine Dorries (6 August 2009). "High Heels". Archived from the original on 15 September 2009. http://www.webcitation.org/5joJGAOtw. Retrieved 15 September 2009. 



29. ^ Trades Union Congress. "Nominations and motions for the 141st anniversary Trades Union Congress 14–17 September, Liverpool". Trades Union Congress. Archived from the original on 15 September 2009. http://www.webcitation.org/5joK9XjxB. Retrieved 15 September 2009. 


30. ^ Nadine Dorries, all-women shortlists will actualize two classes of Bourgeois MP, ConservativeHome (21 October 2009).



31. ^ Rosemary Bennett and Helen Rumbelow, Tory joy as ex-nurse is best for safe seat, The Times (4 April 2005).

External links

• Official site


• Guardian Unlimited Politics - Ask Aristotle: Nadine Dorries MP


• TheyWorkForYou.com - Nadine Dorries MP



• Mid Bedfordshire Conservatives


• BBC Politics page


• BBC Meet the MP in 2005


• Daily Mail Commodity on Daniel Ward


• Dorries' blog in Google's cache

Audio clips

• Discussing aborticide on Radio 4's Woman's Hour in October 2006



• Talking to Mark Darcy of Radio 4's Westminster Hour about aborticide in 2006

News items

• Attempting to lower aborticide time absolute in 2006


• Telegraph article: The World according to Nadine Dorries - November 2007


• Telegraph commodity - Bridget Jones MP - November 2007


• http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/may/22/mps-expenses-conservatives

Parliament of the United Kingdom
Preceded by Jonathan Sayeed	Member of Parliament for Mid Bedfordshire 2005–present	Incumbent