tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38067964.post8685701476166267744..comments2024-01-11T10:25:57.007+00:00Comments on Labour of Gove: Sikh Sangat Suicide Gate: Who is Behind This?Chris Paulhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15679067503215414300noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38067964.post-70133425300119266432007-07-20T08:41:00.000+01:002007-07-20T08:41:00.000+01:00By the way anonymous 20:20 it certainly was not tr...By the way anonymous 20:20 it certainly was not true that Dr Rai committed suicide. The link you provide is to an assertion that another Rai did kill himself recently, though it does not corroborate the Sikh Sangat claim which said a dead man was from Hayes while this post says Southall. Dr Rai is (presnet tense) from Hounslow.<BR/><BR/>It is probably worse to spread a rumour that a real person who has died tragically was the candidate than to have just made it up?<BR/><BR/>The "hothead" who did post that message has had all his posts wiped and been put under severe moderation on the site. He or she had only been a member since the Tories started getting found out for impersonating people on the web.<BR/><BR/>That might be a coincidence. Let's hope so.Chris Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15679067503215414300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38067964.post-80504411305524775742007-07-20T06:42:00.000+01:002007-07-20T06:42:00.000+01:00Sukhi are you a Sikh? If you are how can you call...Sukhi are you a Sikh? If you are how can you call an event in a Gurdwara a 'knees up'.<BR/><BR/>Also you must be out of your mind to compare a conference in a Gurdwara to a 'bhangra concert' - the two are entirely different sorts of events.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38067964.post-1015835710804677552007-07-20T02:56:00.000+01:002007-07-20T02:56:00.000+01:00Gurjeet, more Sikhs attend a bhangra concert any w...Gurjeet, more Sikhs attend a bhangra concert any weekend than attend the Sikh Federation Fundamentalist knees up in Wolverhampton every year. You're an irrelevancy. Nobody is jealous of you --- you are a discredited organisation with a long history of thuggishness, you were involved in the violence outside the Birmingham Rep, you campaign for the de-proscription of a terrorist organisation the ISYF with whom you have historical links. Thankfully, you are nothing more than a rump organisation with an obsession for extrems Sikh nationalism and a crew of chauvinists and bigots to boot. Ken Livingstone invites you to a soiree once a year just as he does Muslim fundamentalists like Qaradawi, but to everyone else you are communalist lepers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38067964.post-11943099700624770342007-07-19T22:05:00.000+01:002007-07-19T22:05:00.000+01:00ChrisOnly time will tell!All the best.Gurjeet Sing...Chris<BR/><BR/>Only time will tell!<BR/><BR/>All the best.<BR/><BR/>Gurjeet Singh<BR/>Sikh Federation (UK)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38067964.post-91598510438465146912007-07-19T22:01:00.000+01:002007-07-19T22:01:00.000+01:00Thanks both!That's really rounded things off nicel...Thanks both!<BR/><BR/>That's really rounded things off nicely. I don't have the time or the inclination to go back and find the exact form of your threats Gurjeet but they absolutely have not helped your case ... with any party in the UK.<BR/><BR/>Best wishes<BR/><BR/>Chris PChris Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15679067503215414300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38067964.post-18705123197102779302007-07-19T21:39:00.000+01:002007-07-19T21:39:00.000+01:00Sukhi said...Well the Sikh Federation are a joke a...Sukhi said...<BR/><BR/>Well the Sikh Federation are a joke and they are an irrelevancy. <BR/><BR/>You are entitled to your opinion.<BR/><BR/>Please join us at our annual conference on 16 September 2007 - Guru Nanak Gurdwara, Sedgley Street, Wolverhampton and you will see that thousands will be there and appreciate the work we do.<BR/><BR/>Anyone in the British Sikh community is ware we have a huge amount of support for our work, it is not our fault if others are jealous of this.<BR/><BR/>Gurjeet Singh<BR/>Sikh Federation (UK)<BR/><BR/>For a bunch of marginalised irrelevancies you give them too much importance. Why would they have to resort to such utterly pathetic tactics if they had any standing amongst Sikhs? They don't, they're pathetic communalist clowns.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38067964.post-78979869993143963972007-07-19T21:32:00.000+01:002007-07-19T21:32:00.000+01:00You will see in all our posts we do not use any vu...You will see in all our posts we do not use any vulgar language.<BR/><BR/>Please QUOTE any of the Sikh Federation posts where we said BACK OTHER candidates. <BR/><BR/>We have warned Labour has shot itself in the foot with the selection process, we have said independents may stand, we have even speculated how people may vote, but we have NOT said vote for person X.<BR/><BR/>We have also said what is happening in Ealing Southall has wider implications across the UK. These are all reasonable opinions.<BR/><BR/>We will continue to try and get a turbaned Sikh into Parliament on merit and ability. We will also support candidates from each of the mainstream political parties in different constituencies - based on the job performed by the MP or promises made by prospective candidates on behalf of constituents (including Sikhs).<BR/><BR/>We do not support any one of the mainstream political parties as we are a pressure group pushing on issues that concern our community.<BR/><BR/>Please speak to MPs that we deal with in each of the main parties and they will tell you that our approach is respected, unlike the selection process of Labour or the Conservatives in this by election.<BR/><BR/>Gurjeet Singh<BR/>Sikh Federation (UK)<BR/>info@sikhfederation.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38067964.post-85277590075176274422007-07-19T21:27:00.000+01:002007-07-19T21:27:00.000+01:00Well the Sikh Federation are a joke and they are a...Well the Sikh Federation are a joke and they are an irrelevancy. For a bunch of marginalised irrelevancies you give them too much importance. Why would they have to resort to such utterly pathetic tactics if they had any standing amongst Sikhs? They don't, they're pathetic communalist clowns.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38067964.post-7180823965102127972007-07-19T21:14:00.000+01:002007-07-19T21:14:00.000+01:00What utter crap Gurjeet. The SF was against the AW...What utter crap Gurjeet. The SF was against the AWS and stated categorically that if a visible Sikh was not selected you would back other candidates and build a national boycott.<BR/><BR/>That is absolutely unacceptable. Full stop.<BR/><BR/>And the SF allies have certainly been backing Lit and also stoking up anti-Hindu lines and these nonsense anonymous posts and hotheadedness.<BR/><BR/>You can try to disassociate the SF from this. But the "tip off" for the Sangat story was written by someone using your very style too.<BR/><BR/>What lesson is Labour supposed to have learned? That they must select turbaned Sikhs, or else?<BR/><BR/>With the greatest respect ... that's pathetic Gurjeet.Chris Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15679067503215414300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38067964.post-38378562223528252612007-07-19T20:40:00.000+01:002007-07-19T20:40:00.000+01:00The Sikh Federation (UK) has criticised Labour for...The Sikh Federation (UK) has criticised Labour for its selection process. It has not backed the Conservatives or anyone else!<BR/><BR/>Hopefully Labour have learnt from this.<BR/><BR/>Gurjeet Singh<BR/>Sikh Federation (UK)<BR/>info@ikhfederation.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38067964.post-51427428681123744172007-07-19T20:20:00.000+01:002007-07-19T20:20:00.000+01:00It may actually be true...It may actually be <A HREF="http://playingagainstthespin.wordpress.com/2007/07/19/polling-day-in-ealing-southall/#comment-44" REL="nofollow">true</A>...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38067964.post-66436588308905932382007-07-19T17:51:00.000+01:002007-07-19T17:51:00.000+01:00In my experience, "people on the ground" might not...In my experience, "people on the ground" might not know...<BR/><BR/>Which would be worse for the Tories, to lose after all the hype, or to win with New Labour's very own Tony Lit? And why?David Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06839882674758833524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38067964.post-56058810896217491352007-07-19T17:20:00.000+01:002007-07-19T17:20:00.000+01:00I don't think Lit is a member. That would have bee...I don't think Lit is a member. That would have been out long ago. My people on the ground would have told me that. I doubt he has ever been a member.<BR/><BR/>There have certainly been past instances of communalism and so on in political parties perp'd by other groups.<BR/><BR/>In this case much of it is down to a few hotheads. The question is whether they were influenced, directed or in any way managed by the Tories.Chris Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15679067503215414300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38067964.post-36582220044297163892007-07-19T16:40:00.000+01:002007-07-19T16:40:00.000+01:00I have reproduced this on my blog, with a couple o...I have reproduced this on my blog, with a couple of questions of my own:<BR/><BR/>1. Would any group of English-speaking Christians (WASP, Irish, West Indian, Saint Helenian, whatever) be permitted to behave like this? and<BR/><BR/>2. Is Tony Lit actually a MEMBER of the Labour Party?<BR/><BR/>At least if Lit wins, then the latter question needs to be addressed to Eric_Wilson@labour.org.uk, copied to every political journalist and blogger that you can find an email address for.<BR/><BR/>But don't expect an answer: I certainly never got one to the Louise Bagshawe question, even though a simple No would have sufficed, just as it would here.David Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06839882674758833524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38067964.post-20897804708250330102007-07-19T16:36:00.000+01:002007-07-19T16:36:00.000+01:00The buck stops at Shapps anyway. Just look at what...The buck stops at Shapps anyway. Just look at what Dale said about the BBC and apply it to this situation. Shapps must resign or be sacked now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com