tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38067964.post4927654818004241073..comments2024-01-11T10:25:57.007+00:00Comments on Labour of Gove: T'Other Dave's Decline: Rochdale Lib Dem MembersChris Paulhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15679067503215414300noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38067964.post-82637201122313276042008-10-09T15:22:00.000+01:002008-10-09T15:22:00.000+01:00For the avoidance of doubt. I cannot confirm that ...For the avoidance of doubt. I cannot confirm that the comment above under the tag Rochdale Online is from that publication. I very much doubt that it is. Please treat it as an anonymous muppet, certainly online, possibly from Rochdale. Pinch of salt.Chris Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15679067503215414300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38067964.post-32401484154699183882008-10-09T14:38:00.000+01:002008-10-09T14:38:00.000+01:00"And finally - Mugabe is a socialist. Take the pip..."And finally - Mugabe is a socialist. Take the pips out of that".<BR/><BR/>Wow EHC, would you Adam and eve it?<BR/>What a rebuke. A socialist.<BR/>So was Cyril once, and Idi Amin. <BR/><BR/>Screwing people over and gripping them by the balls until the pips squeek seems to be a recurring theme with these bullies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38067964.post-33166370856970381032008-10-09T13:13:00.000+01:002008-10-09T13:13:00.000+01:00Our picture. When you talk of "doctoring" are you ...<A HREF="http://www.rochdaleonline.biz/news-features/2/community-news/7966/seventeen-local-lib-dem-members-resign" REL="nofollow">Our picture</A>. When you talk of "doctoring" are you in fact thinking of Sir Cyril Smith grasping young men's ball bags and having them cough at Cambridge House?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38067964.post-4650306166588020542008-10-09T13:08:00.000+01:002008-10-09T13:08:00.000+01:00EHC blethered:On purely technical points:First of ...EHC blethered:<BR/><BR/><I>On purely technical points:<BR/><BR/>First of all, the placards are far too white, face-on and uniformally legible for an outide shot.</I><BR/><BR/>Interesting stuff.<BR/><BR/><I>Secondly, look at the bloke with the pithy slogan about the executive, he has one arm growing out of his shoulder and another that finishes near his ankles.</I><BR/><BR/>You fail Anatomy 101 if you cannot join the dots on that one.<BR/><BR/><I>There is a woman in the middle of the picture that has obviously been dropped in there.</I><BR/><BR/>Obviously!? From Rowen's roof would that be?<BR/><BR/><I>And there is one guy grasping a placard whose hands are in exactly the same configuration as somebody that adorns a photo on our works noticeboard and most certainly was doctored.</I><BR/><BR/>Please send a copy for comparison purposes Chris.<BR/><BR/><I>So, I don't know whose photo it is, Chris. You tell me and how you got hold of it.</I><BR/><BR/>Eighteen people in on a photo-fit conspiracy and keeping schtum? In Rochdale. You are kidding right? This has been a bizarre interlude EHC. Lib Dems of course shoot pictures of candidates with party leaders with BLANK placards. <BR/><BR/>Have you seen any of those?<BR/><BR/><I>And finally - Mugabe is a socialist. Take the pips out of that.</I><BR/><BR/>Mugabe may say that. I'm not sure the Socialist International would agree. Perhaps you could check for me? <BR/><BR/>This is a post about Lib Dem electoral carve ups of the Mugabe kind, and Lib Dem financial irregularity ... in the PUBLISHED VERSIONS of their accounts never mind the real deal.<BR/><BR/>I'll post another view of this protest and you can give us your analysis of that one too.Chris Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15679067503215414300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38067964.post-58749626863949648292008-10-09T11:14:00.000+01:002008-10-09T11:14:00.000+01:00On purely technical points:First of all, the placa...On purely technical points:<BR/><BR/>First of all, the placards are far too white, face-on and uniformally legible for an outide shot.<BR/><BR/>Secondly, look at the bloke with the pithy slogan about the executive, he has one arm growing out of his shoulder and another that finishes near his ankles.<BR/><BR/>There is a woman in the middle of the picture that has obviously been dropped in there.<BR/><BR/>And there is one guy grasping a placard whose hands are in exactly the same configuration as somebody that adorns a photo on our works noticeboard and most certainly was doctored.<BR/><BR/>So, I don't know whose photo it is, Chris. You tell me and how you got hold of it.<BR/><BR/>And finally - Mugabe is a socialist. Take the pips out of that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38067964.post-46564102256597769862008-10-09T09:58:00.000+01:002008-10-09T09:58:00.000+01:00"Heavily doctored"Thats a Powerful phrase EHC.Have..."Heavily doctored"<BR/>Thats a Powerful phrase EHC.<BR/><BR/>Have those fucking geniuses responsible for Rochdale Fib Dem accounts been using Photoshop or just an old-fashioned double entry (no rude puns please) bookeeping and shredder.<BR/><BR/>Mugabe has nothing on these corrupt fuckers. But he would't be allowed in to Fib Dem HQ - Norman Smith and Ted Flynn would't want 'his sort' coming in (african dictators that is).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38067964.post-77880743841059352032008-10-09T01:24:00.000+01:002008-10-09T01:24:00.000+01:00He's right Chris. Rowen isn't putting Rochdale fir...He's right Chris. Rowen isn't putting Rochdale first. Obviously it is his corrupt franchise that comes top. That bit must have been doctored. Don't let EHC deflect from these crappy accounts from the cheating Lib Dems.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38067964.post-10572053431120224292008-10-09T01:18:00.000+01:002008-10-09T01:18:00.000+01:00You think so? Whose photo do you think that is EHC...You think so? Whose photo do you think that is EHC? And why would they doctor such a picture? And in what way would that be?<BR/><BR/>You're losing it ...Chris Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15679067503215414300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38067964.post-70562377617861376702008-10-08T22:58:00.000+01:002008-10-08T22:58:00.000+01:00HEALTH WARNINGThe photograph that leads into this ...HEALTH WARNING<BR/><BR/>The photograph that leads into this thread has been heavily doctored. Even with a totally untrained eye, I can see that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38067964.post-52819520622998547092008-10-08T12:58:00.000+01:002008-10-08T12:58:00.000+01:00There are fairly strict rules regarding the rental...There are fairly strict rules regarding the rental allowances which can be paid to MPs - generally claims have to be supported by an independent valuation of the rental payable where the property is rented from a local party or a related body which does not charge a commercial rental. In addition, the MP would not be able to claim for the part of the property used for Party purposes. Unless the Rowen and the Rochdale Lib Dems are very stupid (always a possibility admittedly) I would doubt that they are overclaiming on the MPs rental allowance (the amount doesn't look out of line with the norm anyway) - my guess is that they undeclaring (to the Electoral Commission) the benefit in kind they receive from the Property Company, which should be the difffernece between the rental paid and the commercial rental. And I wonder if Rowen has declared this benefit in his register of members interest entry.tory boys never grow uphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11172736984147732661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38067964.post-23432284237095348662008-10-08T12:39:00.000+01:002008-10-08T12:39:00.000+01:00The story they give out is that Hennigan is exclus...The story they give out is that Hennigan is exclusively paid by Rowen and that since March 2003 (£1,642.80) there has been no notifiable donation from the Friends of Rochdale Liberal Democrats, an unincorporated assocation c/o Smith Mansions. <BR/><BR/>There was one from the same title as an "individal" with no address in March 2004 (£1,487.00) and another from the Smith-oid hisself in October 2004 (£2,160).<BR/><BR/>The one and only declared donation from the Lib Dem Group was made or at least "accepted" on 31 December 2004 and was for a mighty £24,266.00. Although this is declared to the EC as a donation it does not appear as income in either the 2004 or 2005 accounts submitted in the first half of 2006.<BR/><BR/>The only subsequent donation registered is from Rochdale Reform Buildings Limited, a company registered 00160199, based at the same address as Mr Rowen's office and the Lib Dem Party HQ.<BR/><BR/>That is for £1,793.00, an amount not unadjacent to a possible netting off of £2,000 less say admin charge. £2,000 being the rent recorded as being paid by the party in the year to 31.12.08. A year in which no business rates at all were recorded. In 2004 these had been £1,518.20 BR plus £61.69 for water. And in 2003 £1,804.80.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps Paul Rowen requested waived rates as MP or paid them from his allowances and passed this benefit on to his political chums illegally?<BR/><BR/>There is an amount of £660 per annum included as notional rent in both 2004 and 2003. Presumably <BR/>the Rochdale Reform Buildings Limited were waiving the rent at that point? And presumably there was a 200% uplift and a switch from notional to real for the whole of 2005, although the election was in May not January.<BR/><BR/>The MP meanwhile PAID THE PARTY £3,472.30 in rent from his parliamentary allowances and they also trousered a rates rebate of 846.18 which is about 50% of the 03 figure or perhaps transitional relief of some sort over the reduced figure for 04. <BR/><BR/>The simplified sums on the premises transactions would be:<BR/><BR/>Income:<BR/><BR/>From MP allowances £3,472.30<BR/>From Council £846.18<BR/>From RRB Limited £1,793.00<BR/>From Council £1,600 approx waived BR as compared with 04<BR/><BR/>TOTAL £7,911.48<BR/><BR/>Outgoings:<BR/><BR/>To Rent: £2,000<BR/>To etc: £257.72<BR/><BR/>TOTAL £2,257.72<BR/><BR/>PROFIT TO POLITICAL PARTY from MP presence: £5,653.76<BR/><BR/>Plus all the other stuff. Like having political workers paid by the MP for instance.<BR/><BR/>I have no idea why the accounts were submitted in 2005 as the <I>declared</I> turnover was less than £25,000 and I've no idea why the comparator year carried forward from 2004 is so different with expenditures at £11,579.91 than the total declared in the 2004 accounts which was £32,202.59.<BR/><BR/>No idea either why there are no further donations shown from RRB Limited in 06 and 07 and 08.<BR/><BR/>No idea either why no notifiedf income from the Group. Have they stopped contributing to the party's costs?<BR/><BR/>Who by the way are the Directors of RRB Limited then and now?<BR/><BR/>And yes, what about the other constituencies in the district?<BR/><BR/>Isn't that Cllr Elwyn Wotsit a Sheik's Financial Advisor?? Perhaps he can explain this lot?Chris Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15679067503215414300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38067964.post-33618107070517855642008-10-08T00:13:00.000+01:002008-10-08T00:13:00.000+01:00So what does Dave actually get paid?is it all from...So what does Dave actually get paid?<BR/><BR/>is it all from the MP?<BR/><BR/>Has any of it come from other sources in the past?<BR/><BR/>Is there a full account of every penny of political donations handled by Emma Street for Rochdale and beyond? <BR/><BR/>This is how Al Capone got into trouble.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38067964.post-20060552952509349362008-10-07T23:51:00.000+01:002008-10-07T23:51:00.000+01:00Shit! Those accounts are hilarious. Rowen and Henn...Shit! Those accounts are hilarious. Rowen and Hennigan must be toast surely. Cheat upon contrivance upon fib.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com