tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38067964.post7348893934358463156..comments2024-01-11T10:25:57.007+00:00Comments on Labour of Gove: Respectcoalition: Muslims Need To Take PartChris Paulhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15679067503215414300noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38067964.post-71725405129093268632006-12-22T14:40:00.000+00:002006-12-22T14:40:00.000+00:00[controversy] Thanks soft socialist. I think it ma...[controversy] Thanks soft socialist. I think it may be true that there are tendancies within the zionist side of the argument who will - as someone said in the commentisfree arena - use the holocaust as a sword and shield to protect Zion and excuse their worst excesses. [/controversy]<br /><br />In my view the same collective memory and that of their whole wandering race history should instead give them a real fellow feeling with displaced and racially targeted groups. I'm sure that is the case with very many Jews and Israelis. <br /><br />And incidentally during the 2003 local elections when we were about to take a humungous bloody nose for Blair over Iraq I found that muslim people of all schisms would volunteer their empathy for jews. I just wish this was understood and reciprocated. And also extended from the older generations of sunnis, shiites and wahabbis to the young and fairly secular-but-angry hotheads.<br /><br />Globally muslims and arabs must be considered to be bearing the brunt of a great deal of pain, including in Britain today. Certainly they have displaced generic blacks, irish and jews as the prime targets of the NF and BNP. <br /><br />And most of the places where American hegemony chooses to throw its weight are predominantly muslim countries and regions.<br /><br />In that sense an assault on the godless communists on North korea would make a pleasant change.<br /><br />And of course the media and the political elites don't help on these matters. But as you have proscribed making this connection I'll leave it there for now.<br /><br />I don't know the figures myself but what would be your guess on the proportion of asylum seekers in this country who are muslim?<br /><br />My first hand impression is that in Manchester a large proportion of asylum seekers are not Muslim and to be specific Christians from Africa, Europe and indeed the Middle East. We wouldn't get that impression though from the media or the elite now would we?Chris Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15679067503215414300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38067964.post-35096569051976137352006-12-22T00:39:00.000+00:002006-12-22T00:39:00.000+00:00Oh and before I get any abuse. I certainly don't b...Oh and before I get any abuse. I certainly don't believe in spreading democracy through dropping bombs. I was also as disgusted as everyone else when Israel ripped the hell out of the Palestinians infrastructure during the lebanon crisis.Manchester University Labour Clubhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13381773349911326993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38067964.post-8036713593316964072006-12-22T00:37:00.000+00:002006-12-22T00:37:00.000+00:00Thats a fairly good piece by Salma but one part ma...Thats a fairly good piece by Salma but one part makes me really uncomfortable. How on earth has the memory of the Holocaust been abused to bolster support for the Israeli state? Frankly that is complete crap.<br /><br />Also I agree with u abt working with all elements of the left. But last year when we did a HMD event at the union which Cllr Jim spoke very well at. It turned into well lets sod the holocaust and spend a couple of ours talking about the BNP. Thats the only issue I have, is there any need to link all these issues together?Manchester University Labour Clubhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13381773349911326993noreply@blogger.com